1 00:00:01,269 --> 00:00:04,039 The following story is fictional and does not depict any actual person or event 2 00:00:18,740 --> 00:00:21,080 You really want to help the governor pardon a murderer? 3 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:22,500 The guy killed a cop. 4 00:00:22,500 --> 00:00:24,670 He started the most vicious Latino gang in DC. 5 00:00:29,740 --> 00:00:31,920 Manny Trillo is the original gangster. 6 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,290 He is responsible for half the crack trade in DC. 7 00:00:34,290 --> 00:00:36,790 Guys like that don't change. 8 00:00:37,500 --> 00:00:38,750 Not generally,no. 9 00:00:39,860 --> 00:00:42,000 Which is why this case is so interesting. 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,200 You have a visitor. 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,700 Lieutenant Governor Goldin. 12 00:00:48,310 --> 00:00:49,590 I hear he's bringing friends. 13 00:00:54,530 --> 00:00:55,440 Hey,lambache. 14 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,250 You going to kiss the governor's ass again or what,ese? 15 00:00:59,250 --> 00:01:00,970 Pucker up,ese. 16 00:01:04,970 --> 00:01:05,860 Dr. Lightman. 17 00:01:06,420 --> 00:01:07,730 I'm Lieutenant Governor Goldin. 18 00:01:07,730 --> 00:01:09,230 Mr. Trillo's on his way. 19 00:01:11,740 --> 00:01:12,860 The governor really wants to make him 20 00:01:12,860 --> 00:01:14,540 the poster boy for early release? 21 00:01:14,540 --> 00:01:16,210 Manny Trillo was up for a Nobel Prize 22 00:01:16,210 --> 00:01:18,080 for the antigang work he's done in here. 23 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,400 We believe he can do even more on the outside. 24 00:01:20,630 --> 00:01:24,120 Well,one in every 100 Americans is in prison. 25 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,500 Can understand why the governor wants him for a poster boy,right? 26 00:01:27,940 --> 00:01:29,620 GOLDIN: Of course, before we issue any pardon, 27 00:01:29,620 --> 00:01:33,210 the governor wants to make sure Mr. Trillo is truly rehabilitated. 28 00:01:39,370 --> 00:01:40,420 That's why you're here. 29 00:01:44,970 --> 00:01:46,220 I think you should get him out of there. 30 00:01:46,590 --> 00:01:48,460 Excuse me? Get him out of there right now. 31 00:01:56,910 --> 00:01:58,920 Get down... get down on the ground! 32 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,760 Get down on the ground right now. 33 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:01,850 Stay down. 34 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:26,268 Lie To Me 35 00:02:29,729 --> 00:02:34,785 Season 1 Episode 5 36 00:02:36,353 --> 00:02:44,129 Unchained 37 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,130 You know,I treated a few firefighters in grad school. 38 00:03:04,130 --> 00:03:06,180 It's amazing what these guys have to deal with. 39 00:03:06,180 --> 00:03:07,880 You got a bit of a fireman thing,huh? 40 00:03:09,390 --> 00:03:11,800 I'm just saying these guys are heroes. 41 00:03:12,610 --> 00:03:13,400 Is it the helmets? 42 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,500 I mean,even I like the helmets. 43 00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:16,530 Dr. Foster? 44 00:03:17,620 --> 00:03:20,050 I'm Mike Adams with the National Fire Safety Board. 45 00:03:20,050 --> 00:03:21,340 Hi. Hi. 46 00:03:22,750 --> 00:03:24,790 Is that for the firefighter who was killed last week? 47 00:03:25,260 --> 00:03:25,830 Yeah. 48 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:26,700 Eric Mitchell. 49 00:03:26,700 --> 00:03:28,060 Had less than a year on the job. 50 00:03:28,060 --> 00:03:30,970 His grandfather served for 30 years in the 23rd Engine Company. 51 00:03:30,970 --> 00:03:32,590 He stops by almost every day. 52 00:03:33,740 --> 00:03:34,530 Mr. Mitchell. 53 00:03:36,830 --> 00:03:39,090 These are the people from that firm I was telling you about. 54 00:03:39,780 --> 00:03:43,320 Well,I'm glad someone is trying to find out what really happened to my boy. 55 00:03:43,740 --> 00:03:45,150 I'm sorry about your grandson. 56 00:03:45,570 --> 00:03:47,900 This just couldn't have been an accident. 57 00:03:47,900 --> 00:03:51,300 We're going to do everything we can to figure out what happened, Mr. Mitchell. 58 00:04:00,660 --> 00:04:02,720 So,that's what it takes to get the feds involved. 59 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,280 Grieving relative. 60 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,310 We investigate any time a firefighter's killed on the job. 61 00:04:07,700 --> 00:04:09,610 The building fire was a bad one, 62 00:04:09,610 --> 00:04:10,930 a two-alarm blaze. 63 00:04:10,930 --> 00:04:14,460 Eric Mitchell and his company went in, did a preliminary sweep. 64 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,040 Now,Eric came out with a kid. 65 00:04:19,180 --> 00:04:20,190 Then,he headed back in. 66 00:04:20,690 --> 00:04:22,320 The company got separated. 67 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,850 They didn't find Eric's body until they'd put out the fire. 68 00:04:24,850 --> 00:04:26,460 So,the fire didn't kill him? 69 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,700 The coroner couldn't find a cause of death. 70 00:04:28,700 --> 00:04:30,780 Eric's burns had no inflamed edges. 71 00:04:30,780 --> 00:04:33,220 He was dead before the fire even got to him. 72 00:04:33,220 --> 00:04:34,180 It's unusual, 73 00:04:34,180 --> 00:04:37,720 and it raises the possibility that another firefighter killed him 74 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:38,730 and left him there to burn. 75 00:04:40,570 --> 00:04:42,390 I hired you because if someone is lying 76 00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:44,500 about what happened in that fire,I need to know. 77 00:04:44,500 --> 00:04:45,710 That won't be easy. 78 00:04:45,710 --> 00:04:47,860 A firehouse is a behavioral in-group. 79 00:04:47,860 --> 00:04:50,990 They become more cohesive in the face of adversity. 80 00:04:50,990 --> 00:04:51,790 Is that so? 81 00:04:52,550 --> 00:04:54,940 Chief Morrow, Lieutenant Clayton. 82 00:04:54,940 --> 00:04:56,600 You know, that shrink mumbo jumbo 83 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,330 won't get you far with our boys. 84 00:04:58,780 --> 00:05:00,290 That's why I won't be interviewing the men. 85 00:05:01,050 --> 00:05:02,730 Dr. Lightman will be conducting the interviews? 86 00:05:02,730 --> 00:05:05,680 No,no, we'll get the most deception leakage from these firemen 87 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,850 if they're interviewed by someone that they respect. 88 00:05:07,850 --> 00:05:09,520 So,we won't be asking the questions. 89 00:05:10,590 --> 00:05:11,490 You will. 90 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,240 Name? David Caddick. 91 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,760 And how long have you been a firefighter? 92 00:05:21,980 --> 00:05:22,730 Eight years. 93 00:05:23,310 --> 00:05:24,480 Anything notable? 94 00:05:25,140 --> 00:05:26,480 Well,Caddick's okay, 95 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,400 but Clayton is biting his lip, tugging at his ear. 96 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,390 He's showing an increase in manipulators. 97 00:05:32,390 --> 00:05:33,530 It's a sign of anxiety. 98 00:05:33,830 --> 00:05:34,810 The lieutenant's nervous? 99 00:05:34,810 --> 00:05:35,640 Yeah,it's normal. 100 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:36,890 He's already lost one man. 101 00:05:36,890 --> 00:05:38,480 Last thing he wants to do is indict another. 102 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,490 Tell us about the fire. 103 00:05:40,090 --> 00:05:42,470 Our truck,Truck 5, responded right away. 104 00:05:42,900 --> 00:05:44,120 We started searching. 105 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,260 We followed procedure. 106 00:05:45,260 --> 00:05:47,240 One man on the wall, human chain. 107 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,800 Wall comes down. 108 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,680 Screaming across the hall. 109 00:05:51,330 --> 00:05:53,050 Suddenly,we're all in different directions. 110 00:05:53,050 --> 00:05:54,150 We split up. 111 00:05:54,150 --> 00:05:55,890 I was low on oxygen, 112 00:05:55,890 --> 00:05:58,390 so I cleared a couple of rooms, and then I hit the door. 113 00:05:59,050 --> 00:06:00,610 And I didn't see Eric again. 114 00:06:00,610 --> 00:06:01,500 I got down the hall. 115 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:03,100 Found an exit. 116 00:06:03,780 --> 00:06:05,100 I didn't see Eric again. 117 00:06:05,100 --> 00:06:06,350 I checked the stairwell. 118 00:06:06,630 --> 00:06:07,630 I left the building. 119 00:06:08,500 --> 00:06:09,840 I didn't see Eric again. 120 00:06:10,350 --> 00:06:11,750 Their stories were consistent. 121 00:06:12,090 --> 00:06:12,980 They were. 122 00:06:13,410 --> 00:06:15,830 Can you pull up the response latency analysis? 123 00:06:15,830 --> 00:06:16,940 Response latency? 124 00:06:16,940 --> 00:06:19,940 It's the time between when a question is asked and the answer is given. 125 00:06:21,020 --> 00:06:22,250 Tell us about the fire. 126 00:06:22,250 --> 00:06:24,110 Alarm went off at 3:00 A.M. 127 00:06:24,110 --> 00:06:25,620 CLAYTON: Tell us about the fire. 128 00:06:25,620 --> 00:06:27,100 We got the call around 3:00 A.M. 129 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:28,680 Tell us about the fire. 130 00:06:29,070 --> 00:06:31,210 Must have been about 3:00 in the morning. 131 00:06:31,210 --> 00:06:33,000 FOSTER: Response time is under a second. 132 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,100 If they were lying, they'd be longer,right? 133 00:06:35,100 --> 00:06:37,290 A lot of people think you take longer to respond if you're lying, 134 00:06:37,290 --> 00:06:39,650 but that's just if the lie is spontaneous. 135 00:06:39,650 --> 00:06:41,170 If a lie is prepared ahead of time, 136 00:06:41,170 --> 00:06:42,610 you're eager to get it over with. 137 00:06:43,030 --> 00:06:44,570 So,which one of them is lying? 138 00:06:44,970 --> 00:06:45,850 They all are. 139 00:06:46,590 --> 00:06:48,090 Something happened in that fire, 140 00:06:48,300 --> 00:06:49,530 and from the looks of it, 141 00:06:49,830 --> 00:06:51,450 every one of them was involved. 142 00:06:58,580 --> 00:07:01,450 GOLDIN: This was the second attempton Manny Trillo's life this month. 143 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:02,760 Tensions between La Salva 144 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,700 and Trillo's old gang have escalated. 145 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:05,950 Trillo's been speaking out. 146 00:07:05,950 --> 00:07:07,440 A lot of guys want him dead. 147 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,610 The only thing worse than the street violence 148 00:07:09,610 --> 00:07:10,600 we'll see if Trillo is killed in prison 149 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,250 is the violence we'll see if he takes over El Punio again. 150 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,400 The governor believes Trillo's changed. 151 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,970 He thinks he could do some real good on the outside, 152 00:07:17,970 --> 00:07:20,470 but we need to know he's telling the truth, 153 00:07:20,470 --> 00:07:22,620 that he's not going back to gang life. 154 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:23,630 All right. 155 00:07:23,770 --> 00:07:26,370 More than happy to put my reputation on the line. 156 00:07:29,850 --> 00:07:32,160 First couple of years here, I was angry, 157 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,990 so I took on the other prisoners. 158 00:07:33,990 --> 00:07:35,240 I took on the guards. 159 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,010 I did a lot of solitary. 160 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,260 Got so bad, 161 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:43,660 I started stealing books from the prison library and carrying them around. 162 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,360 I wouldn't have picked you for a bookworm. 163 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,800 That much time in the hole... 164 00:07:48,890 --> 00:07:50,640 I read anything I could got my hands on. 165 00:07:51,450 --> 00:07:54,600 Gardening manuals, economic textbooks, 166 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:55,920 Spanish poetry. 167 00:07:57,950 --> 00:08:02,310 "There is no cry of pain without,at its end, an echo of joy." 168 00:08:02,990 --> 00:08:04,110 Ramón de Campoamor. 169 00:08:04,930 --> 00:08:06,000 I read that and... 170 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:10,490 I don't know. 171 00:08:14,490 --> 00:08:15,830 I caused so much pain. 172 00:08:17,390 --> 00:08:18,980 What joy could come from that? 173 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,050 And then,I'd realized... 174 00:08:22,940 --> 00:08:24,260 I had to be the joy. 175 00:08:27,770 --> 00:08:29,340 That's a charming story. 176 00:08:36,860 --> 00:08:37,920 Would you mind? 177 00:08:38,490 --> 00:08:39,610 I missed lunch. 178 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,790 So,you're saying that you regret what you did. 179 00:08:46,790 --> 00:08:50,830 All I cared about was the power,the money. 180 00:08:54,010 --> 00:08:55,180 And I took a life. 181 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:56,860 Just the one? 182 00:08:58,580 --> 00:09:00,830 I ruined the lives of many young Latinos, 183 00:09:01,820 --> 00:09:04,830 kids who could have had a chance. 184 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,250 Do you have any... plans, 185 00:09:18,250 --> 00:09:20,950 you know,for after prison? 186 00:09:21,710 --> 00:09:23,490 I have a plan for street peace. 187 00:09:24,230 --> 00:09:26,280 We need a social agenda for the barrio. 188 00:09:33,550 --> 00:09:35,620 I've been stabbed twice the last month. 189 00:09:36,830 --> 00:09:38,530 15 stitches this morning. 190 00:09:40,460 --> 00:09:41,850 My life is in your hands. 191 00:09:44,070 --> 00:09:45,410 I couldn't agree more. 192 00:09:50,460 --> 00:09:53,498 Do you think it might be helpful to clue me into your little experiments? 193 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:54,554 Nope. 194 00:09:54,554 --> 00:09:58,269 Gang leaders like Trillo learn early that respect is key to survival. 195 00:09:58,680 --> 00:10:01,680 They need to respond to perceived disrespect, 196 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:04,470 and it becomes what we call an emotional trigger. 197 00:10:04,470 --> 00:10:06,900 He needs me to believe that he's reformed, 198 00:10:06,900 --> 00:10:09,030 but when I talk to him with my mouth full, 199 00:10:09,030 --> 00:10:10,100 this is what we get. 200 00:10:10,990 --> 00:10:12,040 Nostrils flared. 201 00:10:12,990 --> 00:10:13,790 Lips tightened. 202 00:10:17,830 --> 00:10:18,770 Anger. 203 00:10:18,770 --> 00:10:20,310 He can't control himself. 204 00:10:20,850 --> 00:10:22,940 Disrespect is still a trigger. 205 00:10:22,940 --> 00:10:24,810 You're saying Trillo hasn't changed. 206 00:10:24,810 --> 00:10:25,870 Not necessarily. 207 00:10:25,870 --> 00:10:27,610 When he talks about his past, 208 00:10:27,950 --> 00:10:29,360 he shows us something else. 209 00:10:30,150 --> 00:10:31,350 And I took a life. 210 00:10:32,370 --> 00:10:33,250 Shame. 211 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,400 He's truly ashamed for what he's done. 212 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,870 Yeah,but the anger trigger... No. 213 00:10:38,380 --> 00:10:40,090 That's a survival trigger, 214 00:10:40,830 --> 00:10:44,000 and they're really hard to turn off. 215 00:10:45,220 --> 00:10:46,310 Doesn't mean he hasn't changed. 216 00:10:46,310 --> 00:10:49,170 You need to compare this to an emotional baseline-- old videos. 217 00:10:49,170 --> 00:10:50,330 Call the governor's office 218 00:10:50,330 --> 00:10:51,920 and see if they have anything they can send over. 219 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,990 Preferably before someone sticks another fork in Mr. Trillo. 220 00:10:56,740 --> 00:10:57,440 Yeah. 221 00:10:57,910 --> 00:10:58,890 No problem. 222 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:06,250 You see that? 223 00:11:07,590 --> 00:11:09,610 You think you made the right call putting her on this case? 224 00:11:10,020 --> 00:11:11,770 Well,who wouldn't want to be on this case? 225 00:11:11,770 --> 00:11:13,030 Evolution generally takes millennia, 226 00:11:13,030 --> 00:11:14,700 but change in a lifetime,now... 227 00:11:15,610 --> 00:11:16,360 that's something to see. 228 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:17,710 All the naturals that we have seen, 229 00:11:17,710 --> 00:11:19,390 they share two traits. 230 00:11:19,390 --> 00:11:21,000 They are uneducated and... 231 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,140 And the other trait should have nothing to do with the scientific question of whether a man can evolve. 232 00:11:25,140 --> 00:11:28,040 Yes, but psychologically,if she has dealt with a history of... 233 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,530 Hey,if she has strong feelings about Trillo, 234 00:11:30,530 --> 00:11:32,430 then she has to learn to put them aside. 235 00:11:32,430 --> 00:11:35,510 Oh,so I guess, if someone's got to teach her how to avoid her feelings, 236 00:11:35,510 --> 00:11:37,500 then you're the most qualified. 237 00:11:41,740 --> 00:11:43,240 Anything else I can do for you? 238 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,840 I do need some help with my,uh,my firefighters. 239 00:11:49,890 --> 00:11:52,730 Well,all three firemen showed increased manipulators, 240 00:11:52,730 --> 00:11:56,850 but only two of them showed micro expressions of fear. 241 00:11:56,850 --> 00:11:59,550 Well,take me through the one that didn't show fear. 242 00:11:59,550 --> 00:12:00,760 Uh,I thought we were looking for the guy 243 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,210 most likely to tell us what happened. 244 00:12:02,210 --> 00:12:02,920 We are. 245 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:05,910 Okay. Doug Donovan. 246 00:12:06,870 --> 00:12:09,010 No increased anxiety, no notable signs of... 247 00:12:09,010 --> 00:12:10,030 Oh,stop it there. 248 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:11,580 Take it three seconds back. 249 00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:13,990 Freeze it there. 250 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,180 Cheeks raised, 251 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:16,970 lip corners depressed... 252 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:18,030 Remorse. 253 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,970 Maybe he knows something. 254 00:12:19,970 --> 00:12:22,300 Maybe the group is forcing him to lie. 255 00:12:22,300 --> 00:12:24,050 Well,he's the one you want to focus on. 256 00:12:24,050 --> 00:12:25,630 Monkey with the interview conditions. 257 00:12:25,630 --> 00:12:26,960 Keep him with someone he respects. 258 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,240 Use the chief. The more guilty the kid feels, 259 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,710 the more likely he is to tell you what he knows. 260 00:12:34,630 --> 00:12:35,290 Training drill, 261 00:12:35,290 --> 00:12:37,910 1500 Beecham Drive. 262 00:12:37,910 --> 00:12:39,800 Truck 5,go,go,go! 263 00:12:49,830 --> 00:12:51,130 All right,men. 264 00:12:51,130 --> 00:12:53,735 We have a fire on the second floor. 265 00:12:54,044 --> 00:12:54,924 asdfasd 266 00:12:55,144 --> 00:12:57,640 And don't lose touch of the man in front of you. 267 00:12:59,190 --> 00:13:01,040 Probie,get back in line! 268 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,440 Wallace,take over. 269 00:13:03,660 --> 00:13:04,380 Probie! 270 00:13:04,970 --> 00:13:05,750 Probie! 271 00:13:06,510 --> 00:13:07,460 Probie! 272 00:13:23,620 --> 00:13:24,410 Chief Morrow? 273 00:13:25,380 --> 00:13:26,090 What the...? 274 00:13:26,770 --> 00:13:28,580 Didn't work out like this for Mitchell,did it? 275 00:13:29,430 --> 00:13:30,290 You saved the chief. 276 00:13:30,290 --> 00:13:31,650 Why didn't you save him? 277 00:13:34,690 --> 00:13:37,120 You're not the type of guy to leave a man behind. 278 00:13:39,330 --> 00:13:41,870 Hey,we know how guilty you feel. 279 00:13:41,870 --> 00:13:44,420 There must be a good reason you lied. 280 00:13:46,870 --> 00:13:47,090 Come on. 281 00:13:47,090 --> 00:13:49,360 Why won't you tell us what happened? 282 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:54,830 I left him. 283 00:13:56,900 --> 00:13:58,080 I found him in the fire. 284 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,820 I'm supposed to pull him out. 285 00:14:00,890 --> 00:14:02,200 The flames had already got to him, 286 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,130 but I'm supposed to pull him out. 287 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,040 I'm just as guilty as those other guys. 288 00:14:11,220 --> 00:14:12,180 What other guys? 289 00:14:17,530 --> 00:14:18,810 The ones who were hazing him. 290 00:14:23,540 --> 00:14:25,330 According to Mr. Donovan, 291 00:14:25,330 --> 00:14:28,820 your men have been involved in some pretty extensive hazing. 292 00:14:28,820 --> 00:14:30,370 He wouldn't say who was involved, 293 00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:34,050 but it went beyond the silent treatment. 294 00:14:34,050 --> 00:14:35,600 Baking soda showers, 295 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,670 bottle rockets in the bathroom stalls... 296 00:14:38,010 --> 00:14:41,580 Did you know Eric Mitchell had a severe peanut allergy? 297 00:14:41,580 --> 00:14:42,370 No,I didn't. 298 00:14:42,370 --> 00:14:45,880 Donovan heard that slipping Mitchell a little PB&J was the next big gag. 299 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,760 Well,he's junior. He wasn't one of the hazers, 300 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,700 but that's why he didn't pull Eric's body out. 301 00:14:49,700 --> 00:14:51,060 He was protecting the men. 302 00:14:51,060 --> 00:14:53,020 He thought that they had killed Eric. 303 00:14:53,020 --> 00:14:54,570 Were you aware of what was going on? 304 00:14:54,890 --> 00:14:58,420 Hazing is as much a part of this life as alarm bells. 305 00:14:58,420 --> 00:15:01,190 And if one of your men goes into anaphylactic shock and dies, 306 00:15:01,190 --> 00:15:02,290 c'est la vie? 307 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:04,040 You don't understand, 308 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,190 but when you're trapped inside a burning building, 309 00:15:06,190 --> 00:15:07,420 you got to know that the other guys 310 00:15:07,420 --> 00:15:09,310 are going to put code before cowardice, 311 00:15:09,310 --> 00:15:11,320 walk through a wall of fire and come get you. 312 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:12,090 He's right. 313 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,400 I need men who are willing to risk their lives on a daily basis. 314 00:15:16,860 --> 00:15:18,280 And Mitchell just didn't have it in him. 315 00:15:18,540 --> 00:15:19,700 So you looked the other way? 316 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:21,860 He needed to learn. 317 00:15:23,810 --> 00:15:25,230 But make no mistake about it, 318 00:15:25,870 --> 00:15:28,510 I demand a certain level of respect out of my men. 319 00:15:29,020 --> 00:15:29,920 There's a line. 320 00:15:31,140 --> 00:15:32,650 And they wouldn't have crossed it. 321 00:15:32,650 --> 00:15:35,220 Then you won't mind if we talk to the other men in the company? 322 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:36,570 No. 323 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,710 Kerry-- the chief's niece-- she'll help you out. 324 00:15:41,570 --> 00:15:42,770 I got real work to do. 325 00:15:44,980 --> 00:15:47,260 It's like they never left the frat house. 326 00:15:47,260 --> 00:15:49,140 You know,it's not just frat houses. 327 00:15:49,140 --> 00:15:51,610 Initiation rites can be found in all major cultures. 328 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,760 You're defending these guys? 329 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,400 Hazing can serve an important psychological function. 330 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:56,860 Oh,that's funny. 331 00:15:56,860 --> 00:16:00,590 I don't remember reading any articles in the APA journal on swirlies. 332 00:16:00,590 --> 00:16:03,440 Initiation for you MIT mathletes was pretty hard-core,huh? 333 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,320 You make fun,but you try waking up in a shower stall with a killer hangover 334 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,880 and a quart of macaroni salad shoved up your... 335 00:16:10,260 --> 00:16:11,080 What? 336 00:16:12,060 --> 00:16:13,410 t her self-hushing emblem. 337 00:16:13,730 --> 00:16:14,820 She knows something. 338 00:16:14,820 --> 00:16:16,150 Yeah,she does. 339 00:16:16,150 --> 00:16:17,190 And she's hushing herself 340 00:16:17,190 --> 00:16:19,070 because part of her wants to tell. 341 00:16:29,750 --> 00:16:31,350 I knew he was hiding a badge. 342 00:16:31,350 --> 00:16:33,600 La policia siempre asi. 343 00:16:34,980 --> 00:16:36,710 Shield don't make no difference to me. 344 00:16:36,710 --> 00:16:38,520 Chota got what he deserved. 345 00:16:40,270 --> 00:16:42,600 Making any headway with the old Trillo videos? 346 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:43,430 Not really. 347 00:16:43,860 --> 00:16:45,850 No evidence of emotional change at all? 348 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,130 Trillo doesn't seem all that different to me. 349 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:52,880 Let's run the tape. 350 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,780 I've been watching video surveillance from before Trillo's arrest. 351 00:16:56,780 --> 00:16:58,180 That's good. Natural habitat-- 352 00:16:58,180 --> 00:16:59,110 that's the best baseline. 353 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:00,630 All right... 354 00:17:00,990 --> 00:17:03,260 Let's drop the sound and run it side by side 355 00:17:03,260 --> 00:17:05,040 with the video we shot at the penitentiary. 356 00:17:07,210 --> 00:17:09,240 Anger. Contempt. 357 00:17:09,730 --> 00:17:10,620 Contempt. 358 00:17:10,620 --> 00:17:12,950 Trillo's emotional palette was substantially different back then. 359 00:17:12,950 --> 00:17:14,190 I'm surprised you missed it. 360 00:17:15,330 --> 00:17:16,160 Shocking. 361 00:17:18,190 --> 00:17:18,830 Anger. 362 00:17:19,170 --> 00:17:20,040 Disgust. 363 00:17:20,780 --> 00:17:23,430 Though,that expression was practically default back then: 364 00:17:23,430 --> 00:17:25,180 the brow lowered, upper eyelid raised, 365 00:17:25,180 --> 00:17:28,080 and that glare is the mark of a hostile personality. 366 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,760 How many of these did Trillo flash in the old video? 367 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:32,890 I don't know. 368 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,310 Three or four a minute? 369 00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:36,080 Well,he didn't show any in our interview. 370 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,720 Not until the burger incident. 371 00:17:38,700 --> 00:17:40,420 Seems like a pretty big change to me. 372 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:43,080 Whatever. 373 00:17:44,090 --> 00:17:44,510 Well... 374 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,170 Well,that is the kind of emotionally detached 375 00:17:47,170 --> 00:17:49,170 scientific analysis we value around here. 376 00:17:49,170 --> 00:17:50,790 I'll be sure to pass that on to the governor. 377 00:17:51,220 --> 00:17:53,780 Do you have any idea how much worse the Punio-Salva war will be 378 00:17:53,780 --> 00:17:55,280 if Trillo gets out and takes over? 379 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,600 Much,much worse. 380 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,550 I'm sure there'd be a boom in the crack trade,too. 381 00:17:58,550 --> 00:18:00,130 What if Trillo's just conning us? 382 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,850 Well,emotional evidence suggests he's not the same man. 383 00:18:04,900 --> 00:18:05,940 Do you know how many kids in the barrio 384 00:18:05,940 --> 00:18:08,420 want the kind of power Trillo had before he went away? 385 00:18:08,970 --> 00:18:10,950 The guy is pretty good at working the system. 386 00:18:11,260 --> 00:18:11,940 Sure he is. 387 00:18:12,670 --> 00:18:13,520 Read your Darwin. 388 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,720 Survival of the fittest: it's not about being fit; 389 00:18:16,030 --> 00:18:17,630 it's about being adaptable to change. 390 00:18:18,010 --> 00:18:19,320 Violent people are violent. 391 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:20,750 They don't change. 392 00:18:24,700 --> 00:18:27,990 HEIDI: Did you see the message from Lieutenant Governor Goldin's office? 393 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:29,810 Nope. 394 00:18:30,100 --> 00:18:32,650 Holly Sando,the widow of the officer Trillo killed, 395 00:18:32,650 --> 00:18:34,640 has decided to speak to the parole board. 396 00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:37,880 So she's testifying against Trillo's release? 397 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,900 No. She's speaking on his behalf. 398 00:18:42,420 --> 00:18:43,440 Tell Goldin we'll be there. 399 00:18:56,860 --> 00:18:57,680 Rough interview? 400 00:18:59,710 --> 00:19:00,220 I just... 401 00:19:00,630 --> 00:19:02,310 You know,they're just all so tough. 402 00:19:02,310 --> 00:19:03,920 You know,acting like nothing's wrong. 403 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,240 I mean,the last thing they're going to do is talk to a woman. 404 00:19:09,020 --> 00:19:10,150 I'm sorry. I... 405 00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:11,670 I shouldn't be telling you this. 406 00:19:11,670 --> 00:19:13,830 No. It's... 407 00:19:14,370 --> 00:19:15,130 I understand. 408 00:19:16,210 --> 00:19:18,490 No,it's,it's completely inappropriate. 409 00:19:19,220 --> 00:19:20,010 No... 410 00:19:23,530 --> 00:19:24,620 I know how they can be. 411 00:19:28,970 --> 00:19:30,880 I don't think anybody meant to hurt Eric. 412 00:19:33,210 --> 00:19:34,650 The hazing got pretty bad,huh? 413 00:19:37,130 --> 00:19:38,520 God,they'd... they're going to kill me 414 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,410 if they know that I'm talking to you right now. 415 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,320 Someone has to. 416 00:19:51,500 --> 00:19:52,760 There's something you should see. 417 00:19:55,530 --> 00:19:58,600 No! No,but what happens on an emergency call 418 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,500 when you don't wear your helmet? 419 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:05,650 What happens on an emergency call when you don't wear your helmet?! 420 00:20:07,730 --> 00:20:09,320 It's milder than I thought it would be. 421 00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:11,350 LOKER: One of those guys killed Eric Mitchell. 422 00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:14,370 Okay,but this just looks like a bad joke. 423 00:20:14,370 --> 00:20:17,070 Whoa,wait. Look... look at Wallace. 424 00:20:17,070 --> 00:20:18,450 FOSTER: What? He's smiling. 425 00:20:18,650 --> 00:20:20,390 Yeah,sure,he's enjoying the joke, 426 00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:21,240 but,uh... 427 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,560 every time he looks directly at Mitchell... 428 00:20:26,030 --> 00:20:27,460 Intense disgust. 429 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,610 That's more than a bad joke. 430 00:20:38,610 --> 00:20:41,010 When Manny Trillo killed my husband,I... 431 00:20:42,580 --> 00:20:43,400 I was angry. 432 00:20:44,490 --> 00:20:46,440 For years,I couldn't even say his name. 433 00:20:48,670 --> 00:20:51,490 Then one day, someone told me about his book. 434 00:20:52,210 --> 00:20:55,090 I had a morbid curiosity. 435 00:20:55,090 --> 00:20:56,950 So I went out and bought a copy. 436 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,260 I read the whole thing... 437 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:01,890 in two days. 438 00:21:04,340 --> 00:21:05,900 I was shocked. 439 00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:12,480 How could that man have written such a...? 440 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:16,840 I was just... 441 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,590 Everything I had believed... 442 00:21:24,350 --> 00:21:26,730 It changed the way I look at things. 443 00:21:27,950 --> 00:21:29,020 Ms. Sando? 444 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,080 Do you believe Mr. Trillo has changed? 445 00:21:38,450 --> 00:21:39,130 Yes. 446 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:41,990 Yes,I do. 447 00:21:44,490 --> 00:21:46,580 I believe he's repented. 448 00:21:47,980 --> 00:21:49,510 He's changed his heart. 449 00:21:51,910 --> 00:21:53,150 And he's changed mine. 450 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,100 That's quite a statement. 451 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:58,410 Yeah. 452 00:22:04,220 --> 00:22:06,540 Of course she doesn't believe a word she just said. 453 00:22:08,970 --> 00:22:13,040 do you believe Mr. Trillo has changed? 454 00:22:14,580 --> 00:22:15,310 Yes. 455 00:22:17,170 --> 00:22:18,140 Yes,I do. 456 00:22:18,140 --> 00:22:18,980 LIGHTMAN: There it is. 457 00:22:19,770 --> 00:22:21,310 Slightest head shake no. 458 00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:22,850 Now, 459 00:22:22,850 --> 00:22:26,070 we do this by accident when we don't mean what we say. 460 00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:30,530 Holly Sando did it every time she said she thought Trillo had changed. 461 00:22:31,270 --> 00:22:32,130 And then there's this. 462 00:22:32,490 --> 00:22:36,440 You can't let him die in this prison. 463 00:22:39,020 --> 00:22:39,690 There. 464 00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:45,100 Classic glare, which is a bit surprising from a true believer in Mr. Trillo. 465 00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:47,840 Why then lobby for the release of a man who killed your husband 466 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,380 if you don't believe he's changed? 467 00:22:49,380 --> 00:22:50,980 She may be trying to convince herself. 468 00:22:50,980 --> 00:22:53,810 Maybe she believes he's changed intellectually, 469 00:22:53,810 --> 00:22:56,740 but she can't quite get there emotionally. 470 00:22:56,740 --> 00:22:59,560 Or maybe Trillo got one of his old buddies to threaten her. 471 00:23:07,420 --> 00:23:11,300 People always think that anger is the most dangerous emotion, 472 00:23:11,300 --> 00:23:14,310 but disgust is the language of hatred. 473 00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:16,520 Hitler talking about the Jews. 474 00:23:17,780 --> 00:23:20,000 Bin Laden talking about Americans. 475 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,730 And you during the hazing of Eric Mitchell. 476 00:23:23,390 --> 00:23:24,890 What did you have against Eric Mitchell? 477 00:23:28,660 --> 00:23:30,220 The kid made my life hell. 478 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,790 You've been with the department for almost a decade. 479 00:23:32,790 --> 00:23:35,590 How does a probie like Mitchell make your life hell? 480 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:37,400 Nine years. 481 00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:39,940 Nine years,and I never had a problem. 482 00:23:40,350 --> 00:23:42,130 I mean,the occasional bad joke, 483 00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:44,260 watermelon in the locker. 484 00:23:44,980 --> 00:23:46,390 But I kept my mouth shut. 485 00:23:47,180 --> 00:23:48,950 We're not black. We're not white. 486 00:23:49,230 --> 00:23:50,100 We're firemen. 487 00:23:50,900 --> 00:23:51,970 So we get hazed. 488 00:23:53,980 --> 00:23:56,310 Mitchell gets hazed, he runs to the Vulcans, 489 00:23:56,670 --> 00:23:57,990 the Black Firefighter Society. 490 00:23:58,950 --> 00:24:00,420 Requested a transfer. 491 00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:02,660 Mitchell made this racial. 492 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,510 So,you had to choose sides? 493 00:24:04,510 --> 00:24:05,670 I tried to protect him, 494 00:24:06,450 --> 00:24:08,850 but he was young and proud. 495 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,060 He wouldn't learn. 496 00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:13,880 And the more he pushed, the worse it got. 497 00:24:14,370 --> 00:24:16,310 So,you hopped on the fire wagon. 498 00:24:16,860 --> 00:24:18,330 You found out he had a peanut allergy, 499 00:24:18,330 --> 00:24:20,610 and you thought, well,that'll teach him? 500 00:24:20,610 --> 00:24:22,430 Yeah. We did that months ago. 501 00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:24,850 The kid got hives all over, 502 00:24:24,850 --> 00:24:27,560 and it was funny as hell, but it didn't kill him. 503 00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:31,550 No. 504 00:24:32,690 --> 00:24:33,970 Things got much worse. 505 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,860 My guess-- someone screwed with his equipment. 506 00:24:39,450 --> 00:24:40,360 Wasn't you? 507 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:43,540 I wouldn't touch another firefighter's equipment. 508 00:24:44,350 --> 00:24:47,100 Now,I may have hated the kid, but I didn't want him dead. 509 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:48,000 Someone did. 510 00:24:49,090 --> 00:24:51,160 Who had the racial problem with Mitchell? 511 00:24:55,870 --> 00:24:56,700 A lot of guys. 512 00:24:58,580 --> 00:25:00,520 It could have been any one of them. 513 00:25:00,910 --> 00:25:03,190 I can't believe Wallace didn't come forward earlier. 514 00:25:03,190 --> 00:25:05,870 Yeah,the black firefighter won't rat on the racists. 515 00:25:05,870 --> 00:25:07,440 It is a little surprising,isn't it? 516 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,420 Well,not really. 517 00:25:08,420 --> 00:25:11,830 The firehouse is a more important association for Wallace than race. 518 00:25:11,830 --> 00:25:15,120 And in his mind, race wasn't an issue until Mitchell came along. 519 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:16,580 You're saying this was Eric's fault? 520 00:25:16,580 --> 00:25:19,280 No,No. This is the new face of racism. 521 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,510 Instead of overt prejudice, 522 00:25:20,510 --> 00:25:22,360 you see unconscious discrimination. 523 00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:23,570 Nobody's joining the Klan, but a lot of people 524 00:25:23,570 --> 00:25:27,450 still hire the white guy over the black guy with the same resum? 525 00:25:27,450 --> 00:25:30,500 And when unconscious racism surfaces,it can be lethal. 526 00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:33,570 And then what starts out as reasonable hazing turns deadly. 527 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,760 So,how do we find the men responsible? 528 00:25:37,940 --> 00:25:40,680 We'd like to run the company through a little experiment. 529 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,360 As I said earlier, 530 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:48,550 I... I've read his books, and I've seen him interviewed, 531 00:25:48,550 --> 00:25:54,810 and I really believe that Manny Trillo was a... is a changed man. 532 00:25:55,660 --> 00:25:58,490 I asked Holly Sando to come in, and she wasn't up for it,so, 533 00:25:58,490 --> 00:26:01,560 I pulled her statement to the press after the parole hearing. 534 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:06,320 I think it's-it's amazing the way he's-he's turned himself around. 535 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,470 She keeps flashing contempt,anger. 536 00:26:08,820 --> 00:26:09,790 She still hates the guy. 537 00:26:11,260 --> 00:26:12,010 You may be right. 538 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,900 Trillo may be threatening her. 539 00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:14,920 LIGHTMAN: No. I told you, 540 00:26:15,170 --> 00:26:17,130 everything we've seen from Trillo up till now-- 541 00:26:17,130 --> 00:26:19,330 the old videotape, the interview-- 542 00:26:19,330 --> 00:26:21,030 everything sugges he's evolved. 543 00:26:21,030 --> 00:26:22,160 He's not the same man at all. 544 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,500 Did any of the reporters ask her why she decided to testify for Trillo? 545 00:26:26,180 --> 00:26:27,350 Um,yeah,they did. 546 00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:29,360 MAN (on tape): Miss Sando,tell me, 547 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:31,850 what made you come forward after all these years? 548 00:26:31,850 --> 00:26:33,050 SANDO: I had heard that 549 00:26:33,050 --> 00:26:38,020 the governor was considering a pardon,and I thought,well,it... 550 00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:39,850 It-It's time. 551 00:26:39,850 --> 00:26:41,730 Eyebrows up, pulled together. 552 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:44,820 Fear. 553 00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:46,400 There's your answer. 554 00:27:05,790 --> 00:27:07,240 Stopping by for lunch? 555 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,700 No. Just a question. 556 00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:14,600 Did you get someone to threaten Holly Sando? 557 00:27:19,340 --> 00:27:20,920 I'm not threatening Holly Sando. 558 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:22,200 Really? 559 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,190 Because that would be your typical gangbanger move,right? 560 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,080 Get in touch with your old familiars. 561 00:27:27,420 --> 00:27:28,350 Send her a message. 562 00:27:29,220 --> 00:27:30,580 Look,that's not me, not anymore. 563 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:33,210 You sure you haven't called any of your old friends? 564 00:27:33,210 --> 00:27:34,900 I don't talk to those lacras. 565 00:27:35,740 --> 00:27:38,470 Oh,now,that is not the truth. 566 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,460 You see how you're hunched over? 567 00:27:43,167 --> 00:27:45,770 Well,we do that when we're lying. 568 00:27:45,770 --> 00:27:49,000 We try to take up as little space as possible. 569 00:27:50,150 --> 00:27:52,170 And you really ought to work on that anger trigger,mate. 570 00:27:53,210 --> 00:27:54,810 Raises the blood pressure, 571 00:27:54,810 --> 00:27:55,950 and the heart rate. 572 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,360 It's not good for you. 573 00:27:59,050 --> 00:27:59,800 Okay. 574 00:28:01,740 --> 00:28:02,640 The truth is, 575 00:28:03,210 --> 00:28:04,510 I'm in contact with some of them. 576 00:28:05,650 --> 00:28:07,240 I'm working with the gang task force 577 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,380 on a truce between Punio and La Salva. 578 00:28:09,380 --> 00:28:11,050 They told me to keep it quiet. 579 00:28:11,050 --> 00:28:12,100 It's dangerous. 580 00:28:12,970 --> 00:28:15,740 But I haven't been sending anyone out after Holly Sando. 581 00:28:17,530 --> 00:28:18,410 I don't believe you. 582 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,340 He hasn't changed. 583 00:28:21,070 --> 00:28:23,450 His truce? Just so that the cops won't notice 584 00:28:23,450 --> 00:28:25,280 that he's taking over El Punio again. 585 00:28:25,660 --> 00:28:28,430 Nada es real ni es mentira. 586 00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:31,680 Nothing is real or a lie. 587 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,000 It all depends on the color 588 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,590 of the glass you're looking through. 589 00:28:37,770 --> 00:28:41,620 Look,there's so much good I can do if you just get me out of here. 590 00:28:41,620 --> 00:28:43,470 Get me out of here, and I'll prove it to you. 591 00:28:49,780 --> 00:28:50,660 Over the next ten minutes, 592 00:28:50,660 --> 00:28:53,070 you'll be shown a series of images. 593 00:28:53,070 --> 00:28:55,770 Each image will be followed by a series of adjectives. 594 00:28:55,770 --> 00:28:59,280 If the adjective describes the image, click yes. 595 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,450 If not,click no. 596 00:29:03,860 --> 00:29:04,590 Hey,Sylvia. 597 00:29:05,740 --> 00:29:06,750 What are you guys up to? 598 00:29:06,750 --> 00:29:08,520 We're testing for racial bias. 599 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,540 People with unconscious bias find it easier 600 00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:13,660 to associate positive adjectives with Caucasian faces. 601 00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:15,190 When we shift to 602 00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:17,600 an African-American face-- the biased firefighters 603 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,040 still associate the adjective with the image. 604 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,700 It just takes them longer. 605 00:29:22,270 --> 00:29:23,310 Clock the racist. 606 00:29:23,310 --> 00:29:24,930 Oh,they're all racist. 607 00:29:25,370 --> 00:29:27,990 Yeah,80% of people who take this test are biased. 608 00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:30,030 We're just looking for the the guy who takes the longest. 609 00:29:30,030 --> 00:29:31,420 FOSTER: Oh,they're just about done. 610 00:29:31,420 --> 00:29:32,560 All right,can we,uh, 611 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,320 pull up the average association time for each of them? 612 00:29:37,690 --> 00:29:38,810 LOKER: It's taking David Caddick 613 00:29:38,810 --> 00:29:41,750 three times as long to say nice things about African-Americans. 614 00:29:42,260 --> 00:29:43,530 Looks like we have a winner. 615 00:29:44,030 --> 00:29:45,130 I am not a racist. 616 00:29:45,130 --> 00:29:46,750 FOSTER: No,you don't think you are. 617 00:29:47,810 --> 00:29:48,900 But it would explain why you took 618 00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:50,790 such an active role in the hazing. 619 00:29:50,790 --> 00:29:52,840 I didn't do anything different than the other guys. 620 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,720 You didn't mess with Eric Mitchell's equipment? 621 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,400 I didn't have a problem with Mitchell. 622 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,650 We know that you hated him. 623 00:29:58,420 --> 00:30:00,470 You don't even realize how much you hated him. 624 00:30:00,830 --> 00:30:02,150 How much you hate all of them. 625 00:30:03,130 --> 00:30:04,810 I'm telling you that I didn't have 626 00:30:04,810 --> 00:30:06,790 any kind of a racial problem with Mitchell. 627 00:30:09,150 --> 00:30:11,020 But you had another problem with him. 628 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,780 The guy couldn't keep it in his pants. 629 00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:22,100 This was... 630 00:30:22,590 --> 00:30:23,850 about a girl? 631 00:30:26,250 --> 00:30:27,600 You see the disgust? 632 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,500 Yeah. 633 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,050 Well,that's hate. 634 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,470 I'm guessing it's racially motivated. 635 00:30:36,210 --> 00:30:37,490 Was that your problem? 636 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,370 Was it that he was black and she was white? 637 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,090 I didn't know Eric was dating a white girl. 638 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,090 Is that why this happened? 639 00:30:48,420 --> 00:30:49,460 Well,we're not sure. 640 00:30:50,060 --> 00:30:52,030 Racial hatred is about disgust, 641 00:30:52,030 --> 00:30:54,410 but when we pressed Caddick about the girl... 642 00:30:54,410 --> 00:30:56,470 The predominant emotion was anger, 643 00:30:56,740 --> 00:30:59,310 which suggests that Eric may have crossed some other line. 644 00:30:59,310 --> 00:31:03,070 That maybe Caddick was angry because he disrespected his code. 645 00:31:03,070 --> 00:31:04,510 By dating a white girl? 646 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,670 That's not part of any code that I remember. 647 00:31:07,670 --> 00:31:09,640 Well,we don't think this was just any white girl. 648 00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:12,280 Might have been anothe firefighter's girl. 649 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,150 He knew better. 650 00:31:13,810 --> 00:31:15,240 He was smarter than that. 651 00:31:15,670 --> 00:31:17,970 Did he ever bring anyone home from the firehouse? 652 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:22,640 Oh,God... 653 00:31:25,310 --> 00:31:26,280 She came by. 654 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,820 After Eric died. 655 00:31:29,140 --> 00:31:30,140 She was upset. 656 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,950 She brought me a meal. 657 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,910 Do you remember her name? 658 00:31:36,250 --> 00:31:37,000 Kerry. 659 00:31:38,420 --> 00:31:39,510 The chief's niece. 660 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,120 Should I call DC Gang Task Force? 661 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,860 Ask if they've heard of a threat against Holly Sando? 662 00:31:53,350 --> 00:31:54,110 Nope. 663 00:31:56,060 --> 00:31:58,270 Trillo didn't show any deception leakage. 664 00:31:59,670 --> 00:32:01,610 Not when he denied threatening Sando, 665 00:32:01,610 --> 00:32:03,400 not when was talking about the truce. 666 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,300 He's a criminal. 667 00:32:07,130 --> 00:32:08,670 He's a fantastic liar. 668 00:32:08,670 --> 00:32:10,690 He's an appalling liar. 669 00:32:10,690 --> 00:32:11,700 He's atrocious. 670 00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:13,950 The one time he did lie, he was... 671 00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:16,090 completely transparent; you should've seen that. 672 00:32:16,090 --> 00:32:17,850 So you think he's telling the truth? 673 00:32:17,850 --> 00:32:20,430 I don't think he's going back to the gang. 674 00:32:21,670 --> 00:32:23,400 Then why is Holly Sando lying? 675 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,770 If Trillo isn't threatening her, why is she lying for him? 676 00:32:26,770 --> 00:32:27,640 Well,I don't know. 677 00:32:29,230 --> 00:32:30,400 Could be any number of reasons. 678 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,710 Yeah,but there aren't any. 679 00:32:32,130 --> 00:32:33,510 Man,you need to listen to me. 680 00:32:34,410 --> 00:32:35,500 You saw his anger. 681 00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:37,010 You know this guy is violent. 682 00:32:37,010 --> 00:32:41,410 You need... you need to listen to me. 683 00:32:42,610 --> 00:32:44,680 You need to stop making this personal. 684 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,140 I'm not making this personal. 685 00:32:46,140 --> 00:32:47,070 Yeah,you are. 686 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,370 Your procerus doesn't move, 687 00:32:52,860 --> 00:32:55,440 which means you had your nose fixed,right? 688 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,100 You don't strike me as particularly vain,so... 689 00:32:58,700 --> 00:32:59,800 So what is it then? 690 00:33:10,770 --> 00:33:11,500 Who was it? 691 00:33:13,210 --> 00:33:14,100 Was it your dad? 692 00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:16,300 Your dad smack you around? 693 00:33:25,330 --> 00:33:27,560 I know violent people. 694 00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:30,610 They don't change. 695 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,680 You said so yourself. 696 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,250 Once people learn this kind of trigger... 697 00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:44,830 Who are you calling? 698 00:33:45,310 --> 00:33:46,420 I think you might be right in a way. 699 00:33:47,050 --> 00:33:49,700 Put me through to Lieutenant Governor Goldin,please. 700 00:33:50,750 --> 00:33:53,300 I think you should go ahead and announce Trillo's release. 701 00:33:53,860 --> 00:33:54,670 Let him go. 702 00:33:55,980 --> 00:33:57,380 Yeah,just one thing,though. 703 00:33:59,810 --> 00:34:01,580 I have... 704 00:34:50,090 --> 00:34:52,160 I met Eric on his first day. 705 00:34:53,870 --> 00:34:55,710 He was so excited. 706 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,000 He moved here from DC, and he didn't know anyone, 707 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,300 so I... I offered to take him out. 708 00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:06,250 I was being friendly,and... 709 00:35:06,250 --> 00:35:09,340 and six months later, he asked me to marry him. 710 00:35:11,630 --> 00:35:13,400 Your relationship-- it was a secret? 711 00:35:13,830 --> 00:35:14,730 It had to be. 712 00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:19,810 Working in the house,it's like having a dozen overprotective brothers. 713 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,710 And my uncle,he... 714 00:35:24,340 --> 00:35:25,230 He didn't know? 715 00:35:25,590 --> 00:35:27,210 He wouldn't let me date a fireman, 716 00:35:27,210 --> 00:35:29,450 not... not one in his house. 717 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,970 That's why Eric put in for a transfer. 718 00:35:33,660 --> 00:35:35,780 I thought that if we made a clean break... 719 00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:43,090 We were going to move to a little town outside of Philly. 720 00:35:46,940 --> 00:35:48,250 He wanted a family. 721 00:35:50,810 --> 00:35:51,510 Jack? 722 00:35:53,790 --> 00:35:54,910 I had no idea. 723 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,870 I had no idea that they were in a relationship. 724 00:36:01,620 --> 00:36:02,380 That's true. 725 00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:03,980 LOKER: Apologies. 726 00:36:04,690 --> 00:36:07,530 I took the liberty of taping your reaction just now. 727 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,250 When your niece started describing her relationship... 728 00:36:11,250 --> 00:36:14,350 And six months later, he asked me to marry him. 729 00:36:15,410 --> 00:36:16,270 Surprise. 730 00:36:16,540 --> 00:36:18,680 So,this has nothing to do with Mitchell's murder? 731 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,620 FOSTER: It did. 732 00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:23,000 Eric Mitchell was killed because he stepped out of line. 733 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,420 He slept with the chief's niece. 734 00:36:24,420 --> 00:36:26,110 He disrespected the code. 735 00:36:28,220 --> 00:36:29,230 Now,the chief sets the rules, 736 00:36:29,230 --> 00:36:30,610 but he doesn't enforce them. 737 00:36:30,610 --> 00:36:32,250 That's somebody else's job. 738 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,360 I taped you,too. 739 00:36:37,550 --> 00:36:39,400 And six months later, 740 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,720 he asked me to marry him. 741 00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:43,450 Anger and disgust: 742 00:36:43,450 --> 00:36:44,570 the language of hate. 743 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:49,590 You? 744 00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:51,810 You killed him? 745 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:53,370 No. 746 00:36:53,870 --> 00:36:54,540 I didn't. 747 00:36:55,970 --> 00:36:57,510 I just wanted to humiliate him. 748 00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:58,940 He needed to learn humility. 749 00:36:58,940 --> 00:36:59,920 He was one of our men. 750 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:01,340 No,he wasn't one of my men. 751 00:37:02,830 --> 00:37:04,570 My men respect the code. 752 00:37:04,570 --> 00:37:07,230 My men don't complain when they're forced to broom the latrine, 753 00:37:07,230 --> 00:37:09,780 and my men know damn well not to crap where they eat. 754 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,750 For God's sakes,Tommy. 755 00:37:13,230 --> 00:37:14,180 You killed a man. 756 00:37:15,890 --> 00:37:16,680 Arrest him. 757 00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:20,940 I was just following the code. 758 00:37:52,220 --> 00:37:53,030 Holly Sando? 759 00:37:54,890 --> 00:37:56,750 Hi. 760 00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:59,350 What have you got there,a .38? 761 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,710 .38 special? 762 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,250 Police said you registered that a couple of months ago. 763 00:38:07,010 --> 00:38:09,910 Long enough to figure out how to use it,eh? 764 00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:10,780 He's right. 765 00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:13,230 I've been practicing. 766 00:38:13,230 --> 00:38:14,460 Drop the weapon! 767 00:38:15,470 --> 00:38:16,470 Drop the weapon! 768 00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:17,440 Easy now,easy. 769 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,420 Okay,everybody, calm down. 770 00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:19,700 Move out of the way! 771 00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:21,330 Just give me a minute to talk to her. 772 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,460 TRILLO: Just want to talk to Ms. Sando. 773 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:25,950 Holly. 774 00:38:27,540 --> 00:38:28,250 Holly. 775 00:38:28,970 --> 00:38:29,820 Listen to me. 776 00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:31,320 Can you listen to me? 777 00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:34,350 If you have to do this, 778 00:38:35,230 --> 00:38:36,350 I understand. 779 00:38:37,820 --> 00:38:40,960 I want you to know that I understand. 780 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,500 I don't care if you've changed. 781 00:38:44,010 --> 00:38:45,140 I don't care. 782 00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:48,700 Manny,you're still the man who killed my husband. 783 00:38:49,470 --> 00:38:50,240 I know. 784 00:38:51,130 --> 00:38:52,440 You took him away from me. 785 00:38:53,260 --> 00:38:53,980 I know. 786 00:38:56,430 --> 00:38:58,900 You took him away. 787 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:00,690 I know. And you, 788 00:39:00,690 --> 00:39:02,920 you can change all you want. 789 00:39:06,010 --> 00:39:08,240 You can never change that! 790 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:10,550 I know. 791 00:39:12,590 --> 00:39:13,500 And I'm sorry. 792 00:39:19,870 --> 00:39:20,740 I'm sorry. 793 00:39:26,590 --> 00:39:27,670 I'm sorry. 794 00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:30,870 * If I have 795 00:39:32,210 --> 00:39:34,580 * Been ungrateful 796 00:39:35,350 --> 00:39:38,050 * I've been unwise 797 00:39:40,260 --> 00:39:41,940 * Restless 798 00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:45,510 * From the cradle 799 00:39:46,260 --> 00:39:48,480 * Now I realize 800 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:56,530 * It's so hard to see the rainbow * 801 00:39:57,610 --> 00:40:00,520 * Through glasses 802 00:40:00,970 --> 00:40:03,600 * Dark as these 803 00:40:05,610 --> 00:40:07,780 * Maybe 804 00:40:07,890 --> 00:40:10,670 * I'll be able 805 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,560 * From now on 806 00:40:15,020 --> 00:40:18,190 * On my knees 807 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,430 * I am weak 808 00:40:27,230 --> 00:40:32,890 * Oh,I know I am vain 809 00:40:33,370 --> 00:40:35,940 * Take this weight from me 810 00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:39,530 * Let my spirit be 811 00:40:41,010 --> 00:40:43,170 * Unchained. Got a minute? 812 00:40:45,220 --> 00:40:46,450 Trillo wanted you to have this. 813 00:40:58,030 --> 00:40:59,410 I'm sorry about before. 814 00:41:02,780 --> 00:41:04,030 Sometimes I see so much, 815 00:41:04,030 --> 00:41:06,000 I don't know how not to tell people. 816 00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:08,130 Yeah,I get that. 817 00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:10,440 You're right. 818 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,160 Most people don't change. 819 00:41:14,670 --> 00:41:17,260 I mean, I've been there, 820 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,400 hoping for it, 821 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,130 and then they just don't. 822 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,900 But there are a few, I think, 823 00:41:30,510 --> 00:41:31,310 who can. 824 00:41:36,180 --> 00:41:38,280 Any other life lessons? 825 00:41:42,170 --> 00:41:43,140 When someone... 826 00:41:45,870 --> 00:41:47,320 bashes you around, 827 00:41:48,310 --> 00:41:50,140 who's twice your size, 828 00:41:50,140 --> 00:41:51,820 just whenever he feels like it, 829 00:41:52,740 --> 00:41:55,390 you learn to read emotions pretty fast. 830 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,920 We adapt to survive. 831 00:42:05,790 --> 00:42:07,850 Your abuse made you a natural. 832 00:42:10,770 --> 00:42:12,420 He made you what you are. 833 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,410 Well,I'll be sure to thank him. 834 00:42:22,450 --> 00:42:23,440 So what about you? 835 00:42:25,550 --> 00:42:27,230 I'm not a natural. 836 00:42:27,950 --> 00:42:29,290 I had to learn this. 837 00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:31,640 Why'd you want to learn? 838 00:42:33,110 --> 00:42:38,110 What,you all of a sudden became obsessed with facial expressions? 839 00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:44,340 I didn't think so. 840 00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:50,960 So who was it? 841 00:42:53,530 --> 00:42:54,880 Who made you who you are?